Do any other old school gamers hate the term grognard?


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bloodtide

Legend
I'm a grognard badge wearing gamer.

You want to call me one, or anything else, it's not like I care. I'm not from the generation that "cares".

And if feel like it...I can use labels too...and, well <....>
 

Hex08

Hero
I try not to make everything about me, but I'm guessing that it was this post of mine that annoyed you, @Hex08 . If it was I who offended you, I apologize. It was not my intent to use the word as a pejorative. Although my post did not make this explicitly clear, the gamers who I used the term to describe, aged 50-65, had all cut their gaming teeth with AD&D, and I thought the term appropriate given the fact that, in my anecdote, they and I were waxing nostalgic about AD&D rules. What I did not make clear is that, in the post's context, I consider myself a "grognard" too (if not even more so). I see now how my poor wording could make it seem that I positioned myself as an other, a non-grognard, judging grognards. That was not my intent. But, regardless of my intent, I now understand that the word I used carries negative connotations for some, and I'll be more careful with its use in the future.
Your post was one of the posts I read this morning but it wasn't the one that annoyed me, it was in an older discussion I was reading and didn't participate in so no worries. Don't forget, I even said I was a grumpy old man :LOL: .

I will be turning 57 next month and started playing with the Moldvay Basic and Expert sets and AD&D 1E so I am definitely an old school gamer. My fondest memories are of AD&D is 2E and I played D&D through 3.x/Pathfinder 1E. When I want to play a D&D style game I sometimes run Castles and Crusades because of it's simplicity and old school feel. However, I have played tons of different games and l usually run newer games..
 

The Sigil

Mr. 3000 (Words per post)
In the original sense of old guard with experience who you should really consider listening to, I don’t mind it. In the more modern sense of grumpy old jerk, not so much.
This, though when I self-identify as a grognard, it’s usually because I am about to be at least mildly grumpy and threaten kids about remaining on my lawn. But then, I use it in a slightly self-deprecating but loving way, the way sailors might have a fondness for being called a salty sea dog by friends or those giving them a little respect while simultaneously making them aware they are being grumpy. The word can connote both “seasoned” and “a little impatient due to not wanting to suffer perceived fools” at the same time.
 

el-remmen

Moderator Emeritus
I always think of "grognards" as the generation of gamers before me and earlier, and imagine that I am in that category for the generation(s) that came after me (and so on, forever and ever, amen.) 🙏

I started in '83, the year I turned 12.
 


Thomas Shey

Legend
Given I used it as a title "grumpy grognard" for myself on another forum at one time, no, I can't say it bothers me.

(Frankly, on most of the occasions I've seen it used negatively, it usually seemed aimed at people who'd earned it, if not worse).
 

Omak Darkleaf

Oath of Sloth
Your post was one of the posts I read this morning but it wasn't the one that annoyed me, it was in an older discussion I was reading and didn't participate in so no worries. Don't forget, I even said I was a grumpy old man :LOL: .

I will be turning 57 next month and started playing with the Moldvay Basic and Expert sets and AD&D 1E so I am definitely an old school gamer. My fondest memories are of AD&D is 2E and I played D&D through 3.x/Pathfinder 1E. When I want to play a D&D style game I sometimes run Castles and Crusades because of it's simplicity and old school feel. However, I have played tons of different games and l usually run newer games..
My mother gave me the Blue Box Basic Set I’d begged for in 1980 for my eleventh birthday and my friends and I played Holmes Basic for a few months before switching to AD&D the following spring. I played first edition long past the expiration date; even though I bought the 2e books when they came out, I didn’t play in a 2e campaign until 1996, and I only played 2e for a few years, forced to give it up when I moved away for graduate school. I ended up taking a twenty year hiatus from the game altogether, and I didn’t play again until a friend raved to me about 5e in 2019, which when I started playing again.

It’s like being Rip Van Winkle. I went to sleep when we still used THAC0 and woke up to the d20 system. Ability scores were out of order. There were exotic newfangled classes like warlock and sorcerer. Bards were full casters. There was concentration and attunement, advantage and disadvantage. Tasha was no longer evil and Graz’zt was no longer a demon. I know how Kirk felt in the Mirror Universe.

But I have adapted and now I’m making up for lost time. I currently play in six games, and I’m the oldest person at each table. I’ve met a lot of people since I returned to the hobby and have almost never been treated like the old guy. I just pretend to understand the memes and take care of business on the battlefield.

Cheers! 🍻
 
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