W'rkncacnter
Hero
well, closer to +3, really, but either way, maneuvers exist now, so "all" is a bit of an overstatement.
Level Up (A5E) One of A5e best subtle changes: Legendary Resistance
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Faolyn
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To be fair, Legendary Resistance doesn't go off automatically. If you're the Narrator and the player is doing something awesome that they rarely get to do, you can just... not use LR at that time.
You can of course, but lets be honest if your players activate the big whammy that screws over the BBEG, and they don't use their LR....that seems pretty darn suspicious.
What's an example of something with a save that a player rarely gets to do? I'm sure there are things but I'm just not thinking of them...
FitzTheRuke
Legend
I think that the issue is more that many spells are extremely boring and disappointing when the target makes their save. Which is only made worse when the target can auto-save. The half-damage spells are still quite good when saves are made, so it would be nice if the game offered some other, lesser effects on successful saves. I personally find that spells like "Hold Person" are WAY TOO GOOD when the save is failed and yet WAY TOO BORING/feels like a waste of time when the save is made. If they could weaken the main result but add a consolation prize on a successful save, I think that it would be much more interesting and fun.
Some A5E spells do this- slow for example will make a creature Rattled if it succeeds. It would be great if more of them did.
Pathfinder2e does this, right? I know Dungeon Crawl Classics has spell success degrees, not saves. I wonder what other games do this sort of thing... not sure off the top of my head.
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Faolyn
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How would the players know if they used an LR or not? I personally am not in the habit of talking about this sort of meta-information.
Faolyn
(she/her)
Maybe trying out a cool new spell or maneuver for the first time.
W'rkncacnter
Hero
a party whose dm rolls in the open will always be able to see when a legendary resistance is used.
plus, as the OP notes, legendary resistances in a5e tend to actively debuff the monster. if you communicate that debuff even in vague, narrativist terms, a savvy player could probably figure it out.
