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Pedantic
Legend
I imagine that's part of the trade off for maneuvers and Extra Attack.
W'rkncacnter
Hero
i mean, counterpoint...herald gets maneuvers, extra attack, half-casting, and cantrips. so if it is a trade off, it's probably for something else.
xiphumor
Legend
The thing wielders get that herald’s don’t is the ability to convert exertion into spells (heralds can only convert spells into exertion). Although nothing stops anyone from designing an archetype that gets a cantrip or two.
Pedantic
Legend
And also a native extension pool, instead of the herald's spells vs. maneuvers trade-off.
Timespike
A5E Designer and third-party publisher
Indeed! The Burdened from thematic Toolkit: Carry the Darkness is just such an archetype. The Accursed Magic feature gives you two affliction cantrips.
Faolyn
(she/her)
I mean, it depends on the cantrip. Damage-dealing cantrips, yeah. Something like prestidigitation or dancing lights, probably not
Very good point. My friend was concerned that at low levels they're very weak, but I've messaged them this. Their other option was to go fighter but to use the Arcane Showoff archetype--their character idea was someone who was raised in a noble family who taught both wizardry and martial prowess, so they definitely wanted the gishiest they could find.
Faolyn
(she/her)
I don't own that one. Yet. It's not quite what they're looking for, though.
Timespike
A5E Designer and third-party publisher
I will also say: think the wielder is probably plenty strong, even at lower levels, and by the time you hit 5, they're likely to be an absolute wrecking machine. The spell list is really good (notably including shield), the combat traditions list is really good (including Tempered Iron, Cutting Omen and Unending Wheel), and the proficiencies are also excellent. The D8 hit die isn't that big of a deal with the rest of that stuff at your fingertips.
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