Scribe
Legend
I mean lets be honest here, 5e has no morality 'in the game'. Wizards has moved away from any kind of mechanical impact to Alignment, and Alignment is the 'morality' system of the game.
There is nothing to speak of really in 5e.
D&D 5E Is trafficking in soul coins ostensibly evil?
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I mean lets be honest here, 5e has no morality 'in the game'. Wizards has moved away from any kind of mechanical impact to Alignment, and Alignment is the 'morality' system of the game.
There is nothing to speak of really in 5e.
well considering this is the very discussion of the thread I have to disagree with you. The OP wanted to know if their actions fit that of a Lawful Neutral character. That is what we are debating.
Scribe
Legend
I get that, but there is no mechanics of the Alignment, aka morality, system.
It's subjective opinion and how your table plays it.
R_J_K75
Legend
I'm sure that this was common in the early iterations of the game into 1E AD&D. Up until 5E paladins had to be LG. I've read somewhere, regarding sentient evil beings, as a rule of thumb, paladins would try to apprehend, turn them over to the authorities for trial and give them a chance at redemption before outright slaying them. Obviously, there are exceptions, devils and demons that are inherently evil are probably beyond redemption. Playing a Paladin that just runs around killing anything and everything evil is pretty one-track minded and seems like a pretty boring character to play, but I suppose it all depends on the character concept, the individual campaign and the DM running it.
It would be if you lied all the time and not only did your god not punish you, they continue to give you their divine juice.
This isn't the real world, this is dnd.... where good and evil aren't just ethical discussion points, they are literal forces in the world empowered by actual gods and devils.
The soul is already enslaved to hell, whether its in a tiny coin or a fiery hell pit.... the soul is already damned. Sure you could break the soul out of the coin....and then they just go to hell. The soul is literally "damned", destined to suffer eternal torture. You can't change that.
So is possessing hte coin good, absolutely not. But is it truly evil in the context of dnd....eh I think a neutral character could be justified and going "hey it is what it is"
It sounds like then your point is "there is no point in having this debate".
Which is fine....but then seems a weird place for you to hang out and post
Scribe
Legend
It sounds like then your point is "there is no point in having this debate".
Which is fine....but then seems a weird place for you to hang out and post
I mean the debate itself is fine. I've already provided the correct answer at the start.
I'm just saying there is no 5e mechanical system of morality. No crunch.
R_J_K75
Legend
It's been a few years since I read the 5E PHB and DMG, I know that they got rid of all the alignment spells, but is there nothing that gives any guidance on the consequences of one violating their alignment, such as a Paladin?
Paul Farquhar
Legend
Which is, of course, why Wyll, and everyone else in BG3, doesn't have an alignment. It's overly simplistic and limiting way of evaluating a complex mesh of judgment calls.
Zardnaar
Legend
I reread Tyrants of the Nine Hells. You can sometimes legally wiggle out of the contract via an infernal lawyer.
Eg Wyll was 17 when je signed his soul away. Not legally binding in my country so the Devil would be hoping Wyll doesn't know that.
Game has options on how to get out anyway.
