Is Evil Genius Games Doubling Down On NFTs & Blockchain?

Despite public pledges not to use controversial technologies.

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Evil Genius Games' Dave Scott presents to a panel of judges at a cryptocurrency convention in May 2024

Earlier this year, it was revealed that Evil Genius Games--publisher of the d20 Modern inspired Everyday Heroes TTRPG--was considering use of certain controversial Web3 technologies, such as non-fungible tokens (NFTs) and blockchains. In response to that, EGG published a manifesto on February 6th, 2024, which they called their 'Technology Code of Ethics' in which the company pledged not to use blockchain or cryptocurrencies (along with AI, and other pledges). Indeed, Scott himself told me back in February that the company had decided not to use blockchain technology. For a full background on EGG and recent events, you can read more in The Rise And Fall Of Evil Genius Games.

#2: Evil Genius Games will not use Blockchain or Cryptocurrency technologies in the building or operation of its technology platform.

At the end of 2023 and the start of 2024 numerous employees resigned from Evil Genius Games citing--amongst other things--ethical concerns with the technologies that the company was planning to use, something which Dave Scott made public assurances that they would not do. At the time Scott said: “We made the decision not to do AI in October, and then not to do Web3 in December. But apparently, it wasn't enough to allay any concerns. So after the resignations, we brought the team together to discuss. And we felt a public and permanent statement on this issue would be useful. That's why we drafted the code of ethics after the fact.” In fact, back when I spoke to Scott in February of this year, one of the questions I asked him was why the staff who had recently resigned from EGG did not believe him when he repeated that the company did not intend to use those controversial technologies, and he indicated to me that he didn't know why that was the case.

EGG Pitches At Consensus 2024
However, last week, EGG participated in a pitch competition at an event at Consensus 2024, a convention in Texas run by Coindesk. Consensus describes itself as "the world's largest, longest-running and most influential gathering that brings together all sides of the cryptocurrency, blockchain and Web3 community". EGG's owner Dave Scott pitched a future for their TTRPG offerings which leaned heavily on both blockchains and on non-fungible tokens. Scott introduced the company and told the attendees that "we make turn-based RPGs on chain based on famous Blockbuster movie franchises that we all know and love."

Interestingly, Scott also stated that Jeff Grubb (Dragonlance, d20 Modern) works for the company and describes him as "the father of modern day Dungeons and Dragons"; Grubb made it clear earlier this year that he had no current involvement with Evil Genius Games. In my previous delve into EGG, it turned out that Grubb's participation in Everyday Heroes was that he wrote the foreword in 2023.

I'm not the best person on the staff. Meet Jeff Grub. Jeff Grub is the father of modern day Dungeons and Dragons.

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So how do NFTs fit into this vision? Dave Scott described it as follows:

Imagine a scenario where you could actually buy NFT utilities that are exclusive to these licenses you could actually pilot Gypsy Danger, you can carry Rambo's M60, all of these that have value that can be bought sold and traded but more importantly in the Roblox fashion we're going to allow other people to actually create their own NFTs which can be thrown onto a marketplace where they can buy, sell and trade those adventures as well.

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Scott's pitch can be watched below--in the video the CEO presented an NFT and blockchain powered future for Evil Genius Games' tabletop offerings in front of three judges, who then proceeded to ask him questions about the pitch.

During the Q&A which followed, Scott confirmed that there was no actual NFT technology in place yet, indicating that "we've just started to set up the infrastructure to be able to create the NFT program". He also claimed that the company has made $1.2M in revenue in the last year based on sales of digital products.

When asked about the blockchain components of the setup, Scott described the content creator marketplace.

All the Creator Marketplace components of it, the UGC components of it, the entire utility is on chain. If you've actually played RPGs before there's a character sheet, all the components of the character sheet will have objects on it, all the objects will be NFTs. In addition to that the actual character sheet itself will be minted as an NFT as well so what that means is that if we use your character as an NPC in a future game we'll actually pay you royalties on the character itself. So the whole thing is based off of objects which are have NFT components to it.

He went on to describe some of the more technical aspects of the platform, including the use of a 'wallet-as-a-service' company called Stardust. Stardust's mission statement is to "democratise blockchain technology for developers and players at scale".

What we're really excited about is the idea that we can use blockchain to be able to control the value and to create value around the objects which make up your character, that's going to be a really important component of it so if you actually create for example an adventure on our system that'll be something that you own as the creator from here on out but the experience we're going after is a Web2 experience which means that we don't want to expose the wallet, we're going to be using a company called Stardust be able to create custodial wallets for that reason.



This was part of a competition, which--as it happens--Evil Genius Games won!

To Pledge Or Not To Pledge?
Whether or not one supports the idea of blockchains and NFTs, Evil Genius Games did make a very public pledge not to use blockchains--and reiterated to staff, to me, and on forums that they did not plan to go ahead with that course. This presentation appears to indicate otherwise, with CEO Dave Scott declaring his intentions towards both blockchains and NFTs in a very public venue.

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EGG's technology Code of Ethics, published in February 2024
 

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CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing (He/They)
If a company uses them in their inter-company communication you probably will not even know. Since this started I googled a bit and insurance companies seem to be using it in their claims handling quite a bit these days. That is probably transparent to you as a client, but they in turn are insured again, so in the inter-company communication this is getting used.
Yeah, I had to actually dig in and look up whether or not my insurance company uses them. (It's why I stopped using State Farm, for example.) I can't trust companies to just disclose that information on their own.
 

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mamba

Legend
Yeah, I had to actually dig in and look up whether or not my insurance company uses them. (It's why I stopped using State Farm, for example.) I can't trust companies to just disclose that information on their own.
apparently you are serious about this and not just not using them personally…
 


CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing (He/They)
apparently you are serious about this and not just not using them personally…
Yeah, I'm fairly serious about it. I've switched brands, I've cancelled subscriptions, I've boycotted. It's really the only power consumers have, and I use it to voice my opinion on a lot of things, not just NFTs. I rigorously avoid AI, anything associated with Monsanto, J.K. Rowling, games with third-party EULAs (especially Origin), microtransactions...
 
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Juxtapozbliss

Explorer
Yeah, I'm fairly serious about it. I've switched brands, I've cancelled subscriptions, I've boycotted. It's really the only power consumers have, and I use it to voice my opinion on a lot of things, not just NFTs. I rigorously avoid AI, anything associated with Monsanto, J.K. Rowling, games with third-party EULAs (especially Origin), microtransactions...
I've recommended following her in a different thread here related to NFTs and blockchain and Web3. Whether you "believe" in blockchain and think it's legit or you see it as little more than a tech bro scam, I recommend following Molly White. Web3 is Going Just Great She has a newsletter, and she highlights all the scams, failures and problems inherent with crypto, blockchain and NFTs. If you are (as I would see it) deluded to think it has value, then at least pressure test your analysis with her incisive critiques. She's a coder/developer by trade and she knows her stuff. You can sign up for her newsletter here: Citation Needed It's in-depth, and she's brilliant. She understand this stuff inside and out.
 

Spinningdice

Villager
Everything they put as a pro just sounds crap. It's an RPG, if I really want to carry the weapon of whomever I'll just make it up, or use existing stats and say it is. What's the appeal at all? I guess there's some slight appeal if you're playing some kind of 'Adventurers League' type format so you have something official, but most companies get on fine with signed certs.
 

I guess there's some slight appeal if you're playing some kind of 'Adventurers League' type format so you have something official, but most companies get on fine with signed certs.
All of the "pros" are aimed at getting people to give them money to set up the NFT system, and buy the NFTs on the basis they will get more valuable. They're assuming the "investors" don't understand TTRPG players. This is a grift against them, as well as the likes of us.
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
All of the "pros" are aimed at getting people to give them money to set up the NFT system, and buy the NFTs on the basis they will get more valuable. They're assuming the "investors" don't understand TTRPG players. This is a grift against them, as well as the likes of us.
Considering all kvetching I read on these boards--about the price of TTRPG books, DDB subscriptions, having to buy content "again" for a VTT, etc.--if they are trying to run a grift on TTRPG fans, they show a remarkable inability to identify a good mark. If the grift is targeting investors who are unfamiliar with the hobby, well that makes more sense.
 

timbannock

Hero
Supporter
Considering all kvetching I read on these boards--about the price of TTRPG books, DDB subscriptions, having to buy content "again" for a VTT, etc.--if they are trying to run a grift on TTRPG fans, they show a remarkable inability to identify a good mark. If the grift is targeting investors who are unfamiliar with the hobby, well that makes more sense.
That would be my guess. I doubt he has much hindrance in setting his salary pretty high given his background, and since he's not operating a sole proprietorship, his take home is safe even if the business takes a hard turn for the worse.
 

That would be my guess. I doubt he has much hindrance in setting his salary pretty high given his background, and since he's not operating a sole proprietorship, his take home is safe even if the business takes a hard turn for the worse.
Pretty much this.

Personally, I put my entire pay on freeze for over 3 months when Evil Genius Games was in financial trouble at the end of last year, to ensure the business could pay the employees who needed that money to pay their rent, buy food etc. To me, that's the way a good leader takes responsibility, even if the situation isn't their fault.

Having worked on the vision, design, and architecture for the Evil Genius Games tech offerings (I was in a joint CPO/CTO role), I can confidently state that to you that there is nothing—absolutely zero—to be gained by using blockchain technology to implement any of the ideas that Dave Scott articulated.

All of the ideas around owning specific, rare content, can be fully solved with a standard, proprietary database instead of NFTs. Honestly though, that sort of scarcity model is just akin to loot boxes in video games (also a grift designed to extort money from consumers).

Worse, utilising blockchain would be significantly more resource intensive and carry much higher transaction costs, resulting in a significantly higher operating cost to run, translating into higher coats for consumers.

As others have mentioned above, Web3 is a dead technology. It's been around for a decade now. Given how fast technology accelerates and products reach the market, if there were legitimate use cases for web3 tech, then Google, Amazon, Microsoft, IBM etc would all have major products that used that technology. Just try naming a full web3 product from a major tech company.

What they do however is serve that technology up to others who wish to build web3 products using the tech. The primary purpose for these is to convince VCs to invest money into building something that has the appearance of success, and to possibly generate an exit and sell the company at a profit before people realise it's worthless.


For avoidance of doubt, I am entirely against any form of blockchain technology, whether it's crypto, NFTs or other. Same with using generative AI to replace artists and writers - no thanks. I'm also against using micro transactions and artificial scarcity models ("there are only 5 of this digital product available").
 

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