D&D (2024) Printed 2024 Player's Handbook Compared with Other 5E books

Warpiglet-7

Cry havoc! And let slip the pigs of war!
Yeah, I am unsure about some of the changes, but some of them look cool so it's worth the price to pick it up and take a look. I may cherry-pick some rules and features to hybridize into my game. Time will tell if the 2014/2024 ratio in my game is 80%/20%, 50%/50%, or something else.

I am mostly looking forward to the Monster Manual, so of course it's the last book of the core three to be released. :rolleyes: I feel like there has been a lot of player-side power creep (looking at you, Tasha's Crucible of Everything) without a commensurate increase on the monster side, but the 2025 MM might change that.
I have mixed feelings about some of this…

We played BECMI a couple years back for a lark. We play 5e now otherwise.

And it was fun! But long term…I really like the new toys as a player. I just do and I admit it. I also like the durability characters at times when I DM so I can turn up the heat without the anxiety of a total party wipe at every turn.

Yet, I crave challenge as a player. I like some close fights and times where I pull out lots of abilities to just get through.

When you are “more” into challenge than being the star every round, it takes a lot of doing.

If they don’t amp up the monsters some it will continue that trend which 🤷‍♂️

I am sure there are ace DMs that are very good at challenge gradients and this won’t be a problem. Its still a skill I am learning with 5e all these years later.
 

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Rabulias

the Incomparably Shrewd and Clever
I am sure there are ace DMs that are very good at challenge gradients and this won’t be a problem. Its still a skill I am learning with 5e all these years later.
And even if you get really good at it, there is an X factor that is hard to account for: your players. I have fights that I thought would be challenging, and my players will play cautiously and conservatively, with good organized tactics so it becomes a routine fight. Other times, it's like they are different people, and they just swagger right on in to something and get themselves in deep doo-doo quick. Some of their most nail-biting fights were not intended to be such. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Oofta

Legend
I have mixed feelings about some of this…

We played BECMI a couple years back for a lark. We play 5e now otherwise.

And it was fun! But long term…I really like the new toys as a player. I just do and I admit it. I also like the durability characters at times when I DM so I can turn up the heat without the anxiety of a total party wipe at every turn.

Yet, I crave challenge as a player. I like some close fights and times where I pull out lots of abilities to just get through.

When you are “more” into challenge than being the star every round, it takes a lot of doing.

If they don’t amp up the monsters some it will continue that trend which 🤷‍♂️

I am sure there are ace DMs that are very good at challenge gradients and this won’t be a problem. Its still a skill I am learning with 5e all these years later.

For the most part I can up the threat level to what I want, even if it needs to be adjusted now and then. But there will never be a guarantee, the dice are fickle, sometimes the players pull the rabbit of Caerbannog out of their hat.
 

Warpiglet-7

Cry havoc! And let slip the pigs of war!
For the most part I can up the threat level to what I want, even if it needs to be adjusted now and then. But there will never be a guarantee, the dice are fickle, sometimes the players pull the rabbit of Caerbannog out of their hat.
Ironically, we did not worry much with 1e….which we played with wild abandon.

Then again nearly every fight was worrisome!
 

delericho

Legend
A book that size with the same MSRP as the 2014 PHB. That kinda tipped me over the edge to buy the new core.
I thought the new books were $60, compared to $50 for the old? Has that changed while I've not noticed?

(I should note that I'm making no complaint here - the core rules for an RPG you're actually going to play are absurdly good value at almost any price. I'm just surprised.)
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
I thought the new books were $60, compared to $50 for the old? Has that changed while I've not noticed?

(I should note that I'm making no complaint here - the core rules for an RPG you're actually going to play are absurdly good value at almost any price. I'm just surprised.)
New supplements and Adventures are $60 as of last year, but the Core 3 each have an MSRP of $50. That's the power of volume!

That means the new PHB will be $37.88 in 2014 dollars, so actually significantly cheaper than the 2014 PHB...and 384 pages long, to boot.
 
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Yep, the new core three are $50. I'm curious if the price on Amazon will drop any before the release date.

Me too.

Quest from the Infinite Staircase is still at 59 last time I looked. I'm buying it Tuesday from the little game store in my town as I like to support it and it should be the same price.

I'll do the same with the core books if the don't drop and feel better about it.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
Me too.

Quest from the Infinite Staircase is still at 59 last time I looked. I'm buying it Tuesday from the little game store in my town as I like to support it and it should be the same price.

I'll do the same with the core books if the don't drop and feel better about it.
Word "on the street" is that Amazon getting such deep discounts on D&D books has been nipped in the bud...
 

Nikosandros

Golden Procrastinator
In Italy Amazon is selling most D&D books without any discount, though there are a few (seemingly random) exceptions, but only on older releases. The 2024 books are listed for 50 euros each. Strangely, I've found a store that will sell them for 40 euros and they also have a further discount on the standard covers (38 euros).
 

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